The husband and I just had dinner with Patrick Deneen and Kathryn Jean Lopez. And I talked during the dinner conversation. And offered opinions and challenges. And overall thought that Kathryn is a lovely person for making you feel like not-an-idiot! Whether or not I said anything intelligent (which I’m not entirely sure about), she nodded thoughtfully and appeared to take me seriously.
She even said my dissertation sounded fascinating. I liked her.