The husband and I just had dinner with Patrick Deneen and Kathryn Jean Lopez.  And I talked during the dinner conversation.  And offered opinions and challenges.  And overall thought that Kathryn is a lovely person for making you feel like not-an-idiot!  Whether or not I said anything intelligent (which I’m not entirely sure about), she nodded thoughtfully and appeared to take me seriously.

She even said my dissertation sounded fascinating.  I liked her.


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